------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This deck is clearly a rough cut, but I'm still interested in people's ideas/opinions. The idea is to sit on the edge, and have a steady pool gain along with a steady low stealth bleed. Intercept other people's important actions, and survive Potence combat. I think the concept has trouble with speedy S&B, but is pretty robust other than that. Hmmm, then again, the vampire selection is a bit sketchy. Any ideas on how to cut it down to 90 would really help. -Jasper "Things in the Night" VAMPIRES 2 Jost Werner !Toreador 6 ani, , AUS, +1 stealth Devin Bisley Tzimize 5 ANI, , AUS 3 Caitlin !Gangrel 5 ANI, PRO, aus, bishop 2 Anastasia Grey Gangrel 3 ani, pro Vliam Andor Gangrel 2 ani Dani !Nosferatu 2 ani Gillian Krader Pander 2 ani Huang, Blood Cultist Pander 1 pro, !gangrel can rush 103 Cards MASTER: 17 Zoo Grounds The Backways KRCG News Radio The Rumor Mill The Rack Auspex 2 Animalism 3 Protean 3 Blood Doll Society of Leopold Vampiric Disease Millicent Smith OTHER: 11 RPG Launcher 2 IR Goggles Mr. Winthrop 2 J.S. Simmons/Tasha Morgan 5 Forced Awakening ANIMALISM: 48 3 Tier of Souls Terror Frenzy 6 Carrion Crows 2 Canine Hordes 13 Aid form Bats 10 Cats Guidance 6 Guard Dogs Army of Rats 2 Murder of Crows 4 Raven Spy PROTEAN: 16 8 Form of Mist 8 Quick Meld AUSPEX: 11 8 Eagle's Sight 3 Pulse of the Canaille IDEAS/NOTES Heidleburg Castle? Elysium Book of NodTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Trouble at Zack's Rack (aka Claws of Death). Pretty straight forward Rush and burn. I've changed it from before by doubling up on key vamps, and removing most of the cool, but hand clogging, non rush actions. I play this deck when I want to whup ass in combat. It starts horibly slow due to the large vampires, so if you're predator is a fast S&B you're screwed. Fortunatly speed hasn't caught on locally. For reference we play Golden Tenants, with maybe a half dozen cards fixed/banned (guess which ones...). Sometimes we play with 40 pool, which is when I'll generally play this deck. Any ideas on ways to make this better? I don't have any Sabbat/VTES, but am looking into getting some, so cards to look for there would help. VAMPIRES ************************** Basila Gangrel 10 PRO, FOR, pot, ANI, prim, ag hand 2 Wynn Gangrel 10 PRO, FOR, pot, ANI, prim, rush Katarina Gangrel 9 PRO, FOR, pot, ANI, prince 2 Zack North Gangrel 6 pro, for, pot, ani, , 2 hand 2 Badger Gangrel 6 PRO, FOR, pot, ani 2 Camille Devereaux Gangrel 5 PRO, FOR, , ani Roman Alexander Gangrel 4 pro, for, , ani Ricki Van Demsi Gangrel 3 pro, for MASTER: 13 ********** Eco Terrorists Zoo HG The Rack Mob Connections 3 Haven Uncovered 3 Blood Doll 3 Potence OTHER: 15 ********* Ritual Challenge Palatial Estates 5 Taste of Vitae 8 Bum's Rush PROTEAN: 13 *********** Shadow of the Beast 2 Shadow of the Wolf 4 Claws of the Dead 6 Wolf Claws FORTITUDE: 15 ************* 6 Skin of Steel 9 Skin of Rock POTENCE: 16 *********** 5 Immortal Grapple Getting More! 6 Torn Signpost 2 Fists of Death 3 Death of My Conscience ANIMALISM: 8 ************ Owl Companion 7 Drawing out the BeastTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've only played this deck once, when it suprised me and swept a table of 4. In retrospect I was pretty lucky with hand jam, although I don't see much I can really do about it until I get access to some of the Sabbat Cards like Swallowed by the Night, or more Behind You. This is basically a modification of a deck Peter Bakija posted a while back which caught my fancy. Use the efficient bats in combat to try to stay alive, and concentrate on getting your predator and prey's vampires low in blood, at which point things seem to really kick in. More Leopolds, Diseases, and Jacks might be nice to help this out. If any body plays serious combat, you'd better pray for the Elysium. Playing this deck you need to be very carefull with your hand jam, and hopefully will draw the Secret Library early. Great fun to be had with the Castle, and the last 3 Masters. Definitly want to get Milicent Smith -- probably several. :-) Bats, Cats, and Rats VAMPIRES Lucretia Nosferatu 10 ANI, OBF, pot, prim, +1 stealth Amadeo Nosferatu 8 ani, OBF, POT, prim, 2 hunt 2 Ebanezer Roush Nosferatu 8 ANI, OBF, POT, rush 2 Nikolaus Vermeulen Nosferatu 7 ani, obf, POT, prince, recruit Grendel Nosferatu 5 ani, OBF, pot, crypt 2 Sammy Nosferatu 4 ani, obf, pot 2 Panagos Levidis Gangrel 3 ani, obf Dimple Nosferatu 2 , obf OTHERS Cailean NosferatuA 10 ANI, OBF, POT, arch, super maneuver Calebos NosferatuA 8 ANI, OBF, POT, bishop, +1 hand Nigel NosferatuA 5 ANI, obf, POT Dani NosferatyA 2 ani Josef NosferatuA 4 ani, obf Laruent de Valois NosferatuA 4 ani, obf Gillian Krader Pander 2 ani Basil Pander 1 , obf MASTER: 15 Obfuscate 2 Animalism 3 Blood Doll Spawning Pool Secret Library of Alexandria Slum Hunting Grounds The Labyrinth Heidleburg Castle, Germany The Elysium Society of Leopold Vampiric Disease Smiling Jack the Anarch OTHER: 14 Mr. Winthrop 2 Laptop Computer 2 J.S. Simmons/Tasha Morgan 3 IR Goggles 6 Wake with Evenings Freshness ANIMALISM: 36 12 Aid form Bats 10 Cats Guidance 6 Rats Warning 2 Army of Rats 2 Murder of Crows 4 Raven Spy OBFUSCATE: 15 2 Behind You 3 Night Moves 4 Faceless Night 6 Lost in CrowdsTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The mix was off on my Gangrel/Malkavian graverobbing deck, and it no longer looks so promising since there were so many things going on it was all watered down. I've been thinking about this take on grave robbing, although I still need to trade for all the Dawn Ops. The idea is to bruise and bleed, forcing people to intercept (hoping for no bounce), putting them in torpor, and then "bruise and graverob", with Form of Mist available as a Pseudo Stealth to get your through. I suppose I've been having just a little too much fun with Drawing out the beast recently. ;-) Any comments on how to improve this before I actually try it out would be appreciated. :-) -Jasper Dawn Beast GANGREL Stanislava 11 ANI, FOR, DOM, PRO, IC Ingrid Rossler 9 ANI, FOR, dom, PRO, prince, transfers Faruq 8 ANI, for, dom, PRO Iliana 7 FOR, DOM, PRO Camille Devereux 5 ani, FOR, PRO Bear Paw 5 ANI, for, pro Caitlin 5 ANI, dom, PRO, bishop RAVNOS Natalia 7 ANI, for, dom, +1 bleed Sarisha Veliku 6 ANI, FOR, dom VENTRUE Dominique 7 ani, FOR, dom, vandal Timothy Crowley 7 ani, FOR, dom, prince Ingrid Russo 4 for, DOM MASTER CARDS: 13 Zoo HG Eco Terrorists 4 Dominate 2 Animalism 2 Fortitude 3 Minion Tap PROTEAN: 8 8 Form of Mist FORTITUDE: 22 10 Dawn Operation 8 Skin of Steel 4 Skin of rock DOMINATE: 27 Kine Dominance 8 Grave Robbing 6 Deflection 6 Govern the Unaligned 6 Conditioning ANIMALSIM: 10 10 Drawing out the BeastTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I wanted to go for a change of pace in combat decks, and thought I'd try this hyprid rush/voting deck. I'd probably work better if I had more 2nd and 5th traditions, but I'm interested to see how it'll turn out. The idea obviously is to make your vamps archons, Call Anathema, and then gain pool for burning them. I don't have much experience with voting decks, and so I'm not really sure if I can keep the archons around with the number of votes I have or not. Generally there's a fair amount of on the table votes, but people rarely play vote decks (hence my step in that direction). I hoping to roast title vampires as they come up before their votes begin to acumulate (although perhaps I can bet my grand prey to vote with me). Any ideas for what this needs would help alot, since i've never really played a voting deck, or even a Brujah rush deck for that matter. -Jasper Archon Rush Crusher Brujah 9 CEL, POT, PRE, , prim, 2hand, dodge Akram Brujah 8 CEL, pot, pre, , prim, continue combat 2 Rake Brujah 6 cel, pot, PRE, aus, prince, +1hand ventrue Anvil Brujah 6 CEL, POT, pre, , prim Bianca Brujah 6 CEL, pot, pre, , 2hand 2 Volker Brujah 5 CEL, pot, , prince, can't block primogen Yuri Brujah 4 cel, pot, pre Dre Brujah 3 cel, pot Nik Caitif 1 cel, , brujah -intercept Igo Caitif 1 ################## MASTER: 12 Dreams of the Sphinx Brujah HG Depravity Celerity 3 Potence 2 Minion Tap 3 Blood Doll VOTES: 14 5 Archon 4 Anathema 4 Praxis Seizures Brujah Justicar OTHER: 8 5th Tradition 2 2nd Tradition 5 Taste of Vitae CELERITY: 22 8 Blur 6 Flash 4 Acrobatics 4 Sideslip POTENCE: 16 5 Immortal Grapple 6 Torn Signpost 2 Fists of Death 3 Death of my Conscience PRESENCE: 8 8 Bewitching Oration NOTE All the Potence cards and Taste of Vitae are with the Gangrel deckTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is my first attempt at a full blown voting deck. I'm not really sure what to do about intercept, but have attempted to deal with it with Aching beauty, and perhaps bleed then majesty untap. Anyway the idea is to set up some moderate pool gain, start the Anarch Revolt Rolling, and then try to make sure people get ousted in the order I want via KRC and/or Sabbat Threats, giving me the extra pool neccesary to survive the chaos. It looks like it should be a fun deck if it gets off the ground, although I suspect it may work better with a Ventrue deck I'm making based around the 3rd Tradition, Consanguineous Boon, and the same Sabbat Threats/Anarch Revolt. Feedback is always appreciated. :-) -Jasper Toreador Anarchs VAMPIRES Alexandra Toreador 11 PRE, AUS, CEL, IC, +2 bleed, untap tor. Francois Villon Toreador 10 PRE, AUS, CEL, prince, steal, +1 bleed Anson Toreador 8 PRE, aus, CEL, prince, 2 master Tatiana Romanov Toreador 8 pre, AUS, cel, prince, +1 bleed Adreanne Toreador 6 pre, aus, cel, +1 bleed Felicia Mostrom Toreador 5 pre, AUS, CEL Demetrious Slater Toreador 4 pre, aus, cel Delilah Easton Toreador 2 pre Rebekka Tremere 8 PRE, AUS, , +1 stealth, +1 malk bleed Rake Brujah 6 PRE, aus, cel, prince, +1 ventrue hand Vasilis, Traitor Brujah 2 pre Antoinette DuChamp Caitiff 1 pre, , cel, hungry cel MASTER: 14 Succubus Club Art Gallery Toreador HG The Rack Elysium 3 Anarch Revolt 3 Blood Doll 3 Aching Beauty POLITICAL: 19 Toreador Justicar 2 Banishment 5 Sabbat Threats 11 Kindred Resources Contested PRESENCE: 25 10 Majesty 3 Voter Captivation 8 Bewitching Oration 4 Dread Gaze AUSPEX: 16 6 Telepathic Misdirection 4 Eagle's Sight 6 Enhanced Senses CELERITY: 6 6 FlashTop
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Bleed with the weenies, and if they get blocked, kick ass. This will
have trouble with Fortitude, but will do well against about any other combat
deck. I'm hoping to be able to bluster enough bleed through to take down
my prey, while Deflecting to stay alive.
Right now this is a little bit small (66 cards), and I'm probably going
to add cards up to 80, which I'm hoping won't water the combat down too
much. I'm not quite sure what to add; I'm thinking 3 Third Tradition,
3 Dominate, 4 Conditioning, and 4 Effective Management.
I've really come to like the Nossies; now if I can just wait until I
get some of the Sabbat stuff... Beast is just wrong. :-)
-Jasper
VAMPIRES
Sheldon Nosferatu 9 POT, OBF, ANI, , justicar
2 Marty Lechtansi Nosferatu 9 POT, OBF, ani, DOM, prim, press
Selma Repugnant Nosferatu 8 POT, OBF, ani, , prince, +1 nos int
Nikolaus Vermeulen Nosferatu 7 POT, obf, ani, , prince, recruit
Carlotta Giovanni 7 POT, obf, , dom, recycle
2 Gloria Giovanni 4 DOM
2 Duck Nosferatu 3 pot, obf
Koko Nosferatu 2 pot
Ohanna Malkavian 2 dom
Mustafa Rahman Tremere 2 dom
MASTER: 6
Nosferatu HG
Mob Connections
Information Highway
3 Blood Doll
OTHER: 8
5 Taste of Vitae
3 Pulled Fangs
POTENCE: 28
6 Torn Signpost
5 Increased Strength
2 Fists of Death
3 Death of My Conscience
4 Burning Wrath
8 Undead Strength
OBFUSCATE: 8
8 Hidden Lurker
ANIMALISM: 8
8 Drawing out the Beast
DOMINATE: 8
8 Deflection
IDEAS
Lose Carlotta? The ability is nice, but the lack of animalism hurts.
Fame?
The Rack
Sudden Reversal
Top------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Watenda's Warparty" VAMPIRES Beast NosferatuA 7 POT, OBF, rush, +1 hand Olivia NosferatuA 5 POT, OBF, bishop 2 Agatha NosferatuA 4 POT, obf 2 Duck Nosferatu 3 pot, obf 2 Watenda Malkavian 3 , obf, cancel KoKo Nosferatu 2 pot Lupo Brujah 2 pot 2 Hasina Kesi Caitiff 1 pot, , -1 pool if torpored 84 Cards MASTER: 14 Storm Sewers Dreams of the Sphinx Elysium 3 Blood Doll 4 Haven Uncovered 4 Potence OTHER: 24 12 Bums Rush 7 Taste of Vitae 5 Pulled Fangs POTENCE: 36 Disarm 7 Immortal Grapple 2 Fists of Death 5 Increased Strength 9 Torn Signpost 6 Undead Strength 6 Pushing the Limit OBFUSCATE: 10 2 1000k Faces 8 Behind You A few premptive explanations: Yes, Watenda kicks ass. ;-) I still find the Pulled Fangs to be usefull. It's an extra point of damage, even for those with pot, and in my experience a torpored vampire with his fangs pulled ussually stays there, even if you don't manage to keep all your targets vamps down. Increased Strength is very usefull in my experience. When it's not it's freely cyclable, and with the number of strikes I have it's superior to Fists of Death. 1000k Faces. Helps make people uncertain if they want to block, because it could be Watenda. It's also stealth if you happen to need it (damn fortitude!), and freely cyclable stealth at that. I could probably use more ways to deal with the Elysium, but strangely nobody plays with it around here. *shrug* Pushing the Limit. More usefull now that IG only lasts one round, especially for pot vamps; moreover I have Taste of Vitae to offset it. I'm still considering trading several for more Undead Strength though. Ideas for cards to include Need. 5. More. IG. Another Taste? Fame? But what to remove? Decapitate? Rampage?Top
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Amaranth" VAMPIRES 2 Samantha GangrelA 10 PRO, CEL, OBF, bishop, agg. hand, +1 Lasombra int. 3 Zachary GangrelA 7 PRO, CEL, OBF 2 Blaise GangrelA 7 CEL, obf, +1 hand 2 Sadie GangrelA 2 pro Huang Pander 1 pro , rushed by GangrelA Igo Caitiff 1 pro , no stealth hunting Nik Caitiff 1 ,cel 90 Cards MASTER: 20 Dreams of the Sphinx Barrens The Parthenon 3 Haven Uncovered 6 Gangrel Conspiracy 4 Blood Doll 2 Protean 2 Celerity OTHER: 26 7 Ritual of the Bitter Rose 7 Amaranth 12 Bum's Rush PROTEAN: 10 6 Bone Spur 4 Wolf's Claws CELERITY: 34 12 Psyche 6 Blur 6 Sidestrike 6 Pursuit 4 Flash IDEAS Anson!? Minion Tap Instead? Form of Mist? Quick Meld? Arson? Elysium? Obfuscate? Hidden Lurker 1000K FacesTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I remember someone (Peter?) talking about a Pot/Obf rush deck a while ago, and I was inspired to try my own. I'm looking for ideas to improve it, in particular opinions about what the right balance for maneuvers is. And yes, I would put another Beast in if I had one. ;-) -Jasper "Beast's Butt Whuppin' Beat Down Patrol" VAMPIRES Ebanezer Roush Nosferatu 8 POT, OBF, rush Beast NosferatuA 7 POT, OBF, rush, +1 hand 2 Olivia NosferatuA 5 POT, OBF, bishop 2 Agatha NosferatuA 4 POT, obf 2 Duck Nosferatu 3 pot, obf 2 Watenda Malkavian 3 , obf, cancel KoKo Nosferatu 2 pot Lupo Brujah 2 pot CONSIDERING Nilolaus Vermeulen Nosferatu 7 POT, obf, prince, blood doll Murat Nosferatu 7 POT, OBF, prince Carlotta Giovanni 7 POT, obf, recycle 80 Cards MASTER: 13 Nosferatu Kingdom 2 HG Mob Connections 3 Blood Doll 3 Haven Uncovered 3 Potence OTHER: 20 10 Bums Rush 3 Taste of Vitae 5 Pulled Fangs 2 JS Simmons/Tasha Morgan POTENCE: 33 Disarm 7 Immortal Grapple 2 Fists of Death 5 Increased Strength 8 Torn Signpost 5 Undead Strength 5 Pushing the Limit OBFUSCATE: 14 2 1000k Faces 4 Hidden Lurker 8 Behind You IDEAS/NOTES Rack Palatial Estates Rampage IR Goggles? More Taste? Lose Mob and Kingdom?Top
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's been done before, but I wanted a change of pace, and hopefully something faster than my more habitual pot/pro/for/ani. The biggest trouble I have with this deck is figuring out how to work in Pool and Blood gain. :-/ Maneuvers are a pain too, although I'm going to try out Shadow of the Beast and see how it goes. -Jasper VAMPIRES 2 Ebanezer Roush Nosferatu 8 POT, pro, rush 2 Lissette Vizquel Lasombra 6 POT, pro, , +1 diablerie int. Zack North Gangrel 6 pot, pro, for, +1 hand Agatha NosferatuA 4 POT Hugo BrujahA 4 POT KoKo Nosferatu 2 pot Lupo Brujah 2 pot Daliyah Nosferatu 4 , PRO Chandler Hungerford Gangrel 3 , PRO Huang Pander 1 , pro OTHER POSSIBILITIES Lazverinus VentrueA 10 POT, pro, FOR, arch, +2 hand Wynn Gangrel 10 pot, PRO, FOR, prim, rush Badger Gangrel 6 pot, PRO, FOR Sadie GangrelA 2 , pro Hasina Kesi Caitiff 1 pot, , torpor pool loss 80 Cards MASTER: 10 The Rack 3 Haven Uncovered 2 Blood Doll 2 Potence 2 Protean OTHER: 15 Palatial Estates 4 Taste of Vitae 10 Bum's Rush PROTEAN: 25 2 Shadow of the Beast 2 Wolf's Claws 3 Claws of the Dead 5 Bone Spur 7 Form of the Ghost 6 Flesh of Marble POTENCE: 30 7 Immortal Grapple 5 Increased Strength 8 Torn Signpost 5 Undead Strength 5 Pushing the Limit IDEAS/NOTES Probably Wants more Masters More Taste Maybe a tad more rush?Top
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ok, here's my second attempt at a voting deck. I decided to forego all defense, and stick with only presence. People don't (yet!) play many cards to hose majesty here, so it should survive combat. The main idea is to call votes or bleed with PRE vamps, get blocked and majesty to untap, then do the other option. Once I've gone through twice with all of my larger vamps, I can run back through with the pre ones. The Misdirection could also be key if you think your prey has no untap. Anyway, I'm not really sure how this will fare, and am looking for advice. -Jasper Presence VAMPIRE Alexandra Toreador 11 PRE, IC, +2 bleed, (un)tap tor. Anson Toreador 8 PRE, prince, 2 master Delilah Easton Toreador 2 pre Arika Ventrue 11 PRE, IC, +2 bleed, hose locations Timothy Crowley Ventrue 7 PRE, prince Violette Prentiss Ventrue 4 PRE Gideon Fontaine Ventrue 3 PRE 2 Rake Brujah 6 PRE, prince, +1 ventrue hand Vasilis, Traitor Brujah 2 pre Antoinette DuChamp Caitiff 1 pre Igo the Hungry Caitiff 1 pre, , noisy hunting MASTER: 12 Elysium 2 Information Highway Toreador HG Brujah HG Ventrue HG 3 Blood Doll 3 Misdirection POLITICAL: 27 2 Banishment 4 Camarilla Exemplary 5 Praxis Seizure 16 Kindred Resources Contested PRESENCE: 41 5 Legal Manipulation 5 Aire of Elation 20 Majesty 3 Voter Captivation 2 Disarming Presence 6 Bewitching OrationTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inspired by Gangrel Conspiracy, and a similar deck by Chris Rhodes, I decided to give my shot at a City Gangrel Deck. The crypt kind of sucks since there aren't many vampires that fit the discipline combination (i.e. There are 2, both big), but it looks like it should be fun, although I need to get ahold of some more Ritual otBR and Gangrel Conspiracy. Any ideas for improvement? "Gangrel Conspiracy" VAMPIRES 2 Samantha GangrelA 10 PRO, CEL, OBF, bishop, agg. hand, +1 Lasombra int. 2 Zachary GangrelA 7 PRO, CEL, OBF Blaise GangrelA 7 CEL, obf, +1 hand 2 Pieter GangrelA 6 PRO, , OBF Sadie GangrelA 2 pro Huang Pander 1 pro , rushed by GangrelA Igo Caitiff 1 pro , no stealth hunting Nik Caitiff 1 ,cel Smudge Caitiff 1 , diablerie gives +1 hand MASTER: 19 2 The Parthenon GangrelA HG Protean 2 Celerity 3 Haven Uncovered 5 Gangrel Conspiracy 5 Minion Tap OTHER: 18 5 Ritual of the Bitter Rose 5 Amaranth 8 Bum's Rush PROTEAN: 15 5 Form of Mist 5 Bone Spur 5 Wolf's Claws CELERITY: 18 6 Blur 6 Sidestrike 6 Pursuit OBFUSCATE: 10 4 Hidden Lurker 6 Cloak the GatheringTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ My attempt at a Lasombra deck, without using Thoughts Betrayed. It seems like it's lacking a little something, and I'm not sure what to do with it. Suggestions appreciated as always. "Shadow Puppeteer" VAMPIRES Lazverinus VentrueA 10 DOM, POT, , arch, +2 hand Antonio Delgado Lasombra 9 DOM, POT, OBT, arch, political untap Alvaro Lasombra 9 dom, POT, OBT, arch, abstain, +1 bleed Gratiano Lasombra 8 DOM, pot, OBT, 2xpriscus, +1 bleed Aurora Van Brande Lasombra 6 dom, pot, OBT, 1R Lisette Lasombra 6 DOM, POT, , bishop, +1 diab. int. Ignacio Lasombra 4 dom, pot, obt Cameron Lasombra 3 dom, pot Samson VentrueA 2 dom Ohanna Malkavian 2 dom Mitchel Pander 2 pot, obt, expensive torpor Royce Pander 1 dom, , -1 stealth bleed MASTER CARDS: 15 2 Potence 2 Obtenabration 3 Blood Doll 2 Political Seizure Political Hunting Ground Elysian Fields The Hungry Coyote Mob Connections Rumor Mill London Evening Star OTHER CARDS: 9 1 Political Struggle 3 Pulled Fangs 5 Taste of Vitae OBTENEBRATION: 12 Summon the Abyss Entombment 10 Arms of the Abyss POTENCE: 21 6 Torn Signpost 5 Increased Strength 4 Pushing the Limit 4 Undead Strength 2 Decapitate DOMINATE: 23 Kine Dominance 2 Slaughtering the Herd 7 Deflection 6 Governing the Unaligned 7 ConditioningTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thought I'd post the mild Sabbat tweak for what's become my favorite, and probably most effective, deck. I'm still debating pulling out Taste of Vitae among other things -- any other ideas. Largely I'm posting this (again), since I'm curious whether such a deck would be effective in other people's playing circles. "Nigel Goes to Town" VAMPIRES Marty Lechtansi Nosferatu 9 POT, OBF, ani, DOM, prim, press Calebos NosferatuA 8 POT, OBF, ANI, , bishop, +1 hand Beast NosferatyA 7 POT, OBF, ani, , rush, +1 hand 2 Nigel NosferatuA 5 POT, obf, ANI Agatha NosferatuA 4 POT, obf Shane Grimald GangrelA 4 pot, , ani, dom Gloria Giovanni 4 DOM Ohanna Malkavian 2 dom Mustafa Rahman Tremere 2 dom Samson VentrueA 2 dom Royce Pander 1 dom POTENTIAL EXTRA VAMPIRES Tommy NosferatuA 3 pot, , ani Duck Nosferatu 3 pot, obf MASTER: 11 Using the Advantage NosferatuA HG The Rack Information Highway Tribute to the Master 3 Blood Doll 3 Effective Management OTHER: 8 5 Taste of Vitae 3 Pulled Fangs POTENCE: 25 6 Torn Signpost 5 Increased Strength 2 Fists of Death 4 Burning Wrath 4 Pushing the Limit 4 Undead Strength OBFUSCATE: 8 8 Hidden Lurker ANIMALISM: 17 Owl Companion 3 Rats Warning 5 Carrion Crows 8 Drawing out the Beast DOMINATE: 11 4 Conditioning 7 Deflection IDEAS Is Taste of Vitae really ever used? Lose Using the Advantage?Top
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've been looking into making an effective gun deck, and came up with this, a variation on my other HL deck. I'd probably make an equipmentless Assamite deck instead, but I don't have the cards. Advice? "Shadow Assasin" VAMPIRES 2 Thetmes Assamite 10 QUI, CEL, OBF, 2 votes, agg hand Al-Ashrad Assamite 9 QUI, CEL, obf, +1 bleed, arson Husamettin Assamite 8 QUI, CEL, OBF 2 Abd al-Rashid Assamite 5 QUI, CEL, obf Harika Guljan Assamite 3 QUI Janya Akhtar Assamite 2 cel Dimple Nosferatu 2 obf Julius Caitiff 1 qui, , torpor = burn Nik Caitiff 1 cel Smudge Caitiff 1 MASTER: 12 Eldar Library Barrens Assamite HG Heartblood of the Clan Market Square 3 Path of Blood 2 Guardian Angel 2 Blood Doll OTHER: 16 Mr. Winthrop 2 J.S. Simmons/Tasha Morgan 3 Atonement 5 Taste of Vitae 5 Deer Rifle QUIETUS: 16 2 Foul Blood 6 Taste of Death 8 Blood Sweat CELERITY: 18 8 Blur 2 Rapid Thought 4 Pursuit 4 Sideslip OBFUSCATE: 18 2 Cloak the Gathering 3 1000k Mask 5 Disguised Weapon 8 Hidden LurkerTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Well, since I'm posting everything else, I thought I'd post this Sabbat rediddle of my gangrel rush deck; the traffic here is pretty light anyway. I haven't tried it yet, but it should be great fun with the Succubus Club -- "How much do _you_ bid for our services?" Anyone else ever even use the Succubus club in a deck, and have a use for it? "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" or "The Cleaners" VAMPIRES ************************** Basila Gangrel 10 PRO, FOR, pot, ANI, prim, ag hand 2 Wynn Gangrel 10 PRO, FOR, pot, ANI, prim, rush Katarina Gangrel 9 PRO, FOR, pot, ANI, prince 2 Zack North Gangrel 6 pro, for, pot, ani, 2 hand 2 Badger Gangrel 6 PRO, FOR, pot, ani 2 Camille Devereaux Gangrel 5 PRO, FOR, , ani Roman Alexander Gangrel 4 pro, for, , ani Ricki Van Demsi Gangrel 3 pro, for MASTER: 13 ********** Eco Terrorists Zoo HG Succubus Club The Rack Mob Connections 3 Haven Uncovered 3 Blood Doll 3 Potence OTHER: 14 ********* 5 Taste of Vitae 8 Bum's Rush PROTEAN: 12 *********** 2 Shadow of the Wolf 5 Bone Spur 5 Wolf Claws FORTITUDE: 13 ************* 1 Resilience 3 Rolling with the Punches 5 Skin of Steel 4 Skin of Rock POTENCE: 20 *********** 6 Immortal Grapple 6 Torn Signpost 3 Death of My Conscience 4 Pushing the Limit Undead Strength ANIMALISM: 8 ************ Owl Companion 7 Drawing out the Beast IDEAS Masochism and Skin of Marble? Freak Drive Carrion Crows? Palatial Estates Ritual Challenge Shadow of the BeastTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pretty straight forward, although I think it needs some work. I raised the size, and I think I dropped the ratio of C.Boons too much, and perhaps the anarchs too. I'm thinking either of shrinking it again, or changing the mix. The barrens is a recent addition that it badly needed (Puts the presence masters where they belong, and deals with obedience/majesty clog). It's been pretty hit or miss so far, so I'm looking for ways to improve it. "Ventrue Brood" VAMPIRES 2 Arika Ventrue 11 PRE, DOM, FOR, IC, +2 bleed, prey loc upkeep Emerson Bridges Ventrue 8 PRE, DOM, FOR, prince 2 Sir Walter Nash Ventrue 7 PRE, DOM, FOR, prince Timothy Crowley Ventrue 7 PRE, dom, FOR, prince Ranhan Rishi Ventrue 5 PRE, DOM, for, +1 brujah bleed Courtland Leighton Ventrue 4 pre, dom, for Violette Prentiss Ventrue 4 PRE, dom Gideon Fontaine Ventrue 3 PRE Roland Lourssarian Ventrue 3 pre, , for Rufina Soledad Ventrue 2 , for 100 Cards MASTER: 25 Ventrue HQ Uptown Hunting Ground The Parthenon The Barrens Elysium 4 Tribute to the Master 7 Anarch Revolt 9 Presence POLITICAL: 30 3 Ventrue Praxis Seizure Ancient Influence Rumors of Gehenna Beyond Reproach 2 Banishment 2 Disputed Territory 4 Kindred Restructure 16 Consanguineous Boon OTHER: 9 9 Third Tradition PRESENCE: 30 Catatonic Fear 14 Majesty 7 Voter Captivation 8 Bewitching Oration DOMINATE: 6 6 Obedience IDEAS Skin of Steel? Day Op? Deflection?Top
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Probably not the most effective deck, but a friend of mine and I put this together in the hopes of taking advantage of a new house rule making all non-unique weapons 1 cheaper. Besides I've always wanted to make a deck with Watenda (even if he does need to get some skill cards). Looking for ideas for improvement, etc. -Jasper "Snik and Queaky" aka "Watenda's Boomstick Suprise" Dancin' Dana Malkavian 6 cel, obf, +1 hand 2 Watenda Malkavian 3 , obf, cancel combat card 2 Zoe Malkavian 3 cel, obf Normal Malkavian 2 , obf 2 Kalinda Assamite 6 CEL, OBF, "kind dominance" Abd al-Rashid Assamite 5 CEL, OBF Tansu Bekir Assamite 4 cel, OBF Kanya Akhtar Assamite 2 cel Nik Caitiff 1 cel MASTER: 16 3 Malkavian Prank 3 Blood Doll 2 HG Barrens Fragment 2 Obfuscate 4 Celerity OTHER: 18 8 Weapons 10 Bums Rush CELERITY: 24 8 Blur 2 Rapid Thought 6 Flash 3 Side Strike 3 Preternatural Evasion 2 Pursuit OBFUSCATE: 22 4 Behind You 5 Mask of 1000k Faces 5 Night Moves 8 Disguised WeaponTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've always wanted to make Body of Sun work, and this is my best try yet (based in part of Gomi's recent "Wynn-Wynn" deck). See if you can help me improve on this! :-) I realize there's one _glaring_ weakness: S:CE. How do I deal with this? Simple, play decks that completely hose S:CE lots in an attempt to massage the meta game until S:CE isn't played much, and then play this deck. ;-) Seriously though, I don't see how else to do it -- Immortal Grapple and Dog Pack both preculde Body of Sun. :-( If I'm missing something, somebody please clue me in. Actually, Dodges will Suck too. :-/ Vampires 6 Wynn Gangrel 10 PRO, FOR, ANI, pot, obf, prim, rush 6 Hunting/Bleeding/Torpor Rescuing Weenies 90 Cards MASTERS: 8 4 Blood Doll Ganrel HG Eco Terrorists The Rack The Elysium OTHER: 21 Palatial Estates 2 Ritual Challenge 2 Sports Bike 5 Bum's Rush 5 Ambush 6 Taste of Vitae PROTEAN: 24 2 Carrion Coffin 2 Shadow of the Beast 4 Shadow of the Wolf 16 Body of Sun FORTITUDE: 29 6 Masochism 10 Freak Drive 3 Resilience 6 Rolling with the Punches 4 Skin of Steel ANIMALSIM: 8 8 Drawing out the BeastTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Considering all the discussion about Intercept Decks (and their futility), I thought I'd post mine, and see if people could help me improve it. It does a very good job of staying alive and kicking ass, generally ending up with 3 vampires (Hopefully at least Meshenka or Dragos), and burning/torporizing all over the place (well mostly it's predator, which is the problem). I'm at a loss for how to make it truly a threat to it's prey, although as has been pointed out lots of Eagle sight might help. The army of rats, and a timely Society of Leopold can help, but are hardly a serious threat. -Jasper "Trophy Hunters" Lambach Tzimize 10 VIC, ANI, AUS, cardinal, +1 hand, 1 for ag hand 2 Meshenka Tzimize 8 VIC, ANI, AUS, priscus, 1 less for vic. cards Anton Tzimize 8 vic, ANI, AUS, +1 intercept 2 Dragos Tzimize 7 vic, ANI, AUS, pay 0 for combat cards Dominique VentrueA 7 vic, ani, AUS, vandal 2 Corine Marcon Tzimize 6 VIC, ani, AUS, +1 hand Devin Bisley Tzimize 5 vic, ANI, AUS Lolita Houston Tzimize 5 vic, , AUS Horatio Tzimize 2 vic 90 Cards MASTER: 13 Tzimice HG The Hungry Coyote The Rack The Book of Nod Direct Intervention Society of Leopold 2 Vicisitude 2 Animalism 3 Blood Doll OTHER: 15 Femur of Toomler 2 Revenant 6 Forced Awakening 6 Trap VICCISITUDE: 17 1 Reform Body 2 Horrid Form 3 Blood of Acid 7 Body Arsenal 4 Bonecraft ANIMALISM: 27 5 Song of Serenity 4 Scorpion Strike 7 Cat's Guidance 2 Army of Rats 3 Murder of Crows 6 Carrion Crows AUSPEX: 18 4 Eagle Sight 4 Precognition 4 Enchanced Senses 6 Fast Reaction IDEAS/NOTES Leather Jacket? Changeling? More Eagle Sight would be nice, except I don't have any. :-/ More Horrid Form would also be nice. Probably needs more Fast ReactionTop
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A little bit of an eclectic deck. Mild Gangrel rush supplemented with Thoughts Betrayed to set up the grave robbing, obfuscate to help the grave robbing and bleed out, the Homunculus + Madness Network combo, and Deflection for bleed defense. Let me know what you think. I haven't had a chance to try it out, so mostly this is just guesswork. I suspect it would be great fun to use against a sneak and bleed predator though; Deflect his bleeds, rush his guys, and when you steal them they convieniently have discilpines you can use. :-) I'm tempted to put in some political cards since there are so many votes, but I'm afraid of watering the deck down. I'm also worried that the vamps are all expensive, but don't see how to get around that and have the needed disciplines. :-/ (We tend to play 40 pool though, so it's not so bad) GANGREL Stanislava 11 PRO, FOR, DOM Ingrid Rossler 9 PRO, FOR, dom 2 Iliana 7 PRO, FOR, DOM Camille Devereux 5 PRO, FOR Chandler 3 PRO MALKAVIAN Greger Anderssen 7 OBF, dom, pro Gilbert Duane 7 OBF, DOM Mariel 7 OBF, DOM, special Zebulon 5 OBF, dom, pro Didi Meyers 5 obf, DOM VENTRUE Arika 11 OBF, DOM, FOR, special MASTER CARDS: 11 This seems a bit light Madness Network Asylum HG Zoo HG Eco Terrorists Fragments of the Book of Nod Elder Library The Barrens 4 Dominate OTHER CARDS: 7 Inverary, Scottland 6 Bum's Rush PROTEAN: 14 4 Homunculus 4 Wolfs Claws 4 Claws of the Dead 2 Form of Mist FORTITUDE: 14 4 Skin of Steel 4 Unflinching Persistance Hidden Strength is probably better 4 Skin of rock DOMINATE: 25 Kine Dominance 6 Grave Robbing 6 Deflection 4 Govern the Unaligned 4 Conditioning 4 Thoughts Betrayed IMHO this is very broken... OBFUSCATE: 12 4 Faceless Night 4 Lost in Crowds 4 Cloak the Gathering Probably more Lost in Crowds insteadTop
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Here'a my latest version of my Gangeral/Nosferaty Deck.
Let me know what you think.
VAMPIRES Blood
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Basila 10
Wynn 10
Zack North 6
Badger 6
Camille Devereaux 5
Chandler Hungerford 3
Ricky Van Dempsy 3
Selma the Repugnant 8
Ebenezer Roush 8
Nikolauds Vermeulen 7
Daliyah 4
Koko 2
LIBRARY: 16 I think this is probably too many...
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Eco Terrorists
Backways
Zoo HG
Slum HG
Labyrinth
Spawning Pool
Tomb of Rameses III This seems broken. :-/
Mob Connections
Information Highway
The Rack
2 Blood Doll
2 Fortitude
2 Potence
OTHER: 8
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Renegade Garou
Ritual Challenge A few more would be nice
6 Bum's Rush 8 might be better
PROTEAN: 14
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4 Wolf Claws
4 Claws of the Dead
4 Form of Mist
2 Gleam of the Red Eyes
FORTITUDE: 14
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6 Skin of Steel
4 Skin of Rock
4 Hidden Strength
ANIMALISM: 14
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5 Raven Spy
5 Rat's Warning
4 Scorpion Sting
POTENCE: 14
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3 Immortal Grapple I don't have any more...
2 Fists of Death
5 Torn Signpost
4 Mighty Grapple
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