I think that I would do somthing like this. They would be crypt cards but they would look different. They would have the designator: Mortal Mortal would be a new rule; vampires that are mortal do not go to torpor they are burned anytime that they would. Mortals treat agg damage as normal. Mortals cannot play cards require a vampire, and cannot be effected by cards that only effect vampires. many of the supernatural mortals would have displines to show there power. They would be able to play them as a vampire. but some could just have really cool specials. Over all this interesting but maybe it just expands allys Some examples The President of the USA 4 cap pre 4 votes mortal Mage 3 cap THA QUI mortal Celine Dion 2 cap MEL mortal any vampire may enter combat with Celine Dion as a +1 stealth D action. If Celine Dion burns her controler gians 2 pool. Chuck Arnett Zagumus@hotmail.com